N1 Conditions, Dependencies, and Consequences
~ばそれまでだ / ~たらそれまでだ: meaning, usage and examples
~ばそれまでだ / ~たらそれまでだ means: if... then it's all over / if... that's the end of it.
How to form it
<Verb ば-form> + それまでだ / <Verb た-form> + ら + それまでだ
Examples
どんなに高い車でも、事故を起こしてしまえばそれまでだ。
No matter how expensive a car is, if you get in an accident, that's the end of it.
一度信頼を失ったらそれまでだ。
Once you lose trust, it's all over.
どんなに良い計画も、実行しなければそれまでだ。
Even the best plan means nothing if you do not carry it out.
どんなに高いカメラも、落として壊れたらそれまでだ。
However expensive a camera is, once you drop it and it breaks, that is the end of it.
When to use it
Means "if X happens, that is the end of it" or "if X, it is all for nothing." The speaker points out that one event would make all earlier effort, value or chances meaningless. For example, どんなに良い計画も、実行しなければそれまでだ (even the best plan means nothing if you do not carry it out).
Nuance
A sober, slightly resigned remark, used in speech and writing. The result is always loss or futility. Often paired with いくら / どんなに ... ても in the first half. It can also mean "if X, there is nothing more to discuss": 断られればそれまでだ.
Compare
Compare たが最後: 一度寝たが最後、起きない stresses that a bad situation then continues without stopping. ばそれまでだ stresses that everything ends or becomes worthless: 壊れたらそれまでだ. Also compare ても仕方がない, which says an action is useless but not that something is lost.
Tip: Pair it in your head with "all that effort, gone." If the sentence describes something being lost or wasted at one stroke, それまでだ fits.
More in Conditions, Dependencies, and Consequences
- ~いかんだ / ~いかんでは / ~いかんによっては: depending on... / based on...
- ~いかんにかかわらず / ~いかんによらず / ~いかんを問わず: regardless of... / irrespective of...
- ~なくしては: without... / if it weren't for...
- ~ことなしに: without... / without doing...
- ~とあれば: if... / if it's the case that...
- ~たが最後 / ~たら最後: once... / if... (a negative result is certain)
- ~ようによっては / ~ようでは: depending on how... / if...
- ~か否か: whether or not
- ~たところで: even if... / even though...
- ~たら~たで: if... then... (new problems arise)
- ~たら~ところだ: if... then... would have happened (hypothetical consequence)
Frequently asked questions
What does ~ばそれまでだ / ~たらそれまでだ mean?
If... then it's all over / if... that's the end of it. Example: どんなに高い車でも、事故を起こしてしまえばそれまでだ。 (No matter how expensive a car is, if you get in an accident, that's the end of it.)
How do you form ~ばそれまでだ / ~たらそれまでだ?
<Verb ば-form> + それまでだ / <Verb た-form> + ら + それまでだ. Pair it in your head with "all that effort, gone." If the sentence describes something being lost or wasted at one stroke, それまでだ fits.