N2 Intention and Determination
~までして/~てまで: meaning, usage and examples
~までして/~てまで means: going so far as to... / even...
How to form it
<Noun> + までして / <Verb て-form> + まで
Examples
借金までして、家を買った。
I went so far as to borrow money to buy a house.
嘘をついてまで、隠す必要はない。
There's no need to go so far as to lie to hide it.
体を壊してまで働く必要はないと思います。
I don't think you need to work so hard that you ruin your health.
徹夜までして準備したのに、会議は延期された。
I even stayed up all night preparing, but the meeting was postponed.
When to use it
Says that someone does something extreme, risky or unusual to reach a goal. For example, 借金までして家を買った means "they even took out a loan to buy a house." The pattern often comes with a judgment: either the goal is so important that it is worth it, or doing that much is going too far.
Nuance
Used in speech and writing. Often critical or surprised: 〜てまで〜する必要はない ("no need to go that far"). It can also express strong determination. The action before まで is something people would normally avoid.
Compare
てでも stresses the speaker's determination for something not yet done: 徹夜してでも終わらせる. てまで often judges an action, sometimes after the fact: 徹夜までして終わらせた. さえ simply means "even," without the idea of going to extremes.
Tip: Two common frames are 〜てまで〜したくない ("I don't want it that badly") and 〜てまで〜する必要はない ("no need to go that far"). Learn them as set phrases.
Related points
Similar meaning, often confused
More in Intention and Determination
- ~ようではないか: let's... / why don't we...
- ~てでも: even if it means... / even by...
- ~まい: won't... / will not... (negative intention)
- ~ようか~まいか: whether to... or not...
- ~つもり (belief): think/believe that... (mistaken belief)
Frequently asked questions
What does ~までして/~てまで mean?
Going so far as to... / even.... Example: 借金までして、家を買った。 (I went so far as to borrow money to buy a house.)
How do you form ~までして/~てまで?
<Noun> + までして / <Verb て-form> + まで. Two common frames are 〜てまで〜したくない ("I don't want it that badly") and 〜てまで〜する必要はない ("no need to go that far"). Learn them as set phrases.